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Divorce and Money — A podcast by Ever After Wealth

A Podcast by Ever After Wealth®

Divorce & Money™

Marriage is about love. Divorce is about money.

Real conversations about the financial realities of divorce — for physicians, business owners, and accomplished professionals who refuse to navigate the most consequential financial restructuring of their lives without strategy.

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29 Episodes · New episodes every 1–2 weeks

Latest Episode

Season Two

Episode 29September 29, 2026 · 49 min

Why Successful Men Struggle in Divorce with Men’s Therapist, Marc Azoulay

Professional success does not guarantee clear judgment when divorce becomes personal. Marc Azoulay, founder of Men’s Therapy Online, joins Gabriella to explain why capable business owners, physicians, and fathers may struggle to make sound decisions when grief, anger, and isolation take over. The conversation offers a direct warning: how a man handles his emotions during divorce can shape his finances, his future, and his relationship with his children.

Essential Listening

Where to Begin

If you are new to the show, start here. These episodes cover the foundational frameworks and most strategic conversations for business owners, physicians, and professionals navigating divorce.

Episode 1823 min

How Financial Fear Hijacks Divorce | The Psychology of Divorce Decisions, Pt. 1

Why financial fear quietly takes over divorce decisions, and what it costs when a capable person goes silent at the moment money is on the line.

For accomplished women

Episode 1432 min

Protecting Your Private Practice Playbook | Part 1: The Financial Blind Spots Physicians Can’t Afford to Miss

The financial blind spots most physicians never see coming — from inflated valuations to earning-capacity assumptions that distort reality.

For physicians and dentists

Episode 1023 min

How to Divorce-Proof Your Business | Part 1: What Every Business Owner Needs to Know Before Divorce

The strategic foundation every business owner needs before divorce papers are filed — and the structural risks most never anticipate.

For business owners

What We Talk About

The Conversations the Industry Avoids

  • 01

    The financial blind spots most people miss during divorce — and how those blind spots compound for years after settlement.

  • 02

    How to protect a business, medical practice, or complex assets when the system was not designed to understand how they actually operate.

  • 03

    What your attorney may not be telling you about settlement strategy — and why financial clarity supports, but does not replace, legal strategy.

  • 04

    Real talk about the money mistakes that cost people six and seven figures, drawn from more than two decades of working inside complex divorce cases.

  • 05

    Interviews with attorneys, financial experts, and divorce professionals who bring depth and honesty to conversations the field usually avoids.

Who Listens

Built for People Who Take Their Decisions Seriously

If you are navigating divorce yourself

The Clarity You Wish Someone Had Given You Earlier

Whether you are preparing, negotiating, or rebuilding, each episode is designed to explain what the financial process actually looks like — and what the choices you make now will mean ten years from now.

If you are a professional in the divorce space

The Case Perspective You Do Not Get Anywhere Else

Family law attorneys, financial advisors, mediators, and therapists who want to deepen their understanding of the financial mechanics that drive every settlement decision.

If you are a referring professional

Context That Sharpens Your Referrals

For financial advisors, therapists, and coaches whose clients face divorce. Understanding the financial mechanics — even briefly — changes how you support them and who you point them toward.

Full Archive

Every Episode

Latest episodes first

Season Two

Episode 28September 15, 2026 · 17 min

Building Your Divorce Team | Why State Laws (and Legal-Financial Integration) Change Everything

Where you live determines who belongs on your divorce team. Gabriella explains why community property and equitable distribution states produce fundamentally different financial outcomes, why alimony, goodwill, and marital property law keeps shifting through appeals and rulings, and why every financial move made during a divorce is scrutinized. The real risk is a team whose professionals do not understand each other's work.

Season Two

Episode 27September 1, 2026 · 44 min

How to Divorce Without Destroying Your Family or Finances with Collaborative Attorney Andrea Vacca

The attorney you hire shapes the cost, the tone, and the aftermath of a divorce. Collaborative attorney Andrea Vacca joins Gabriella to examine what changes when preparation and financial clarity replace the bulldog mindset, how fear steers expensive decisions, and what to weigh before choosing mediation, collaborative divorce, or litigation.

Season Two

Episode 26August 18, 2026 · 18 min

Why Your Divorce Can Feel Calm and Still Be Financially Complicated

Season two opens by separating complexity from conflict. Why an amicable divorce involving multiple businesses, real estate, and different account types is still financially complicated, the difference between the report an attorney needs and the strategy a client needs, and why custody should be settled before financial negotiations begin so it never becomes leverage.

Episode 25June 2, 2026 · 22 min

Are You Paying the "Confusion Tax" in Your Divorce?

The season one finale. Gabriella names the hidden cost that surfaces when complex divorce decisions are made under pressure: the Confusion Tax. Why retirement accounts, business ownership, medical practices, executive compensation, and settlement language all require divorce-specific strategy, with a guide to where to begin in the catalog during the summer break.

Episode 24April 21, 2026 · 47 min

Betrayal Trauma & Divorce Decisions with Post Betrayal Syndrome Expert, Dr. Debi Silber

Betrayal does not just break trust — it disrupts how you think, feel, and make decisions. Gabriella sits down with Dr. Debi Silber, founder of the Post Betrayal Transformation Institute, to connect emotional recovery directly to financial decision-making during divorce.

Episode 23April 7, 2026 · 50 min

The Hidden Option: ESOPs & How to Save Your Business During Divorce with Matt Middendorp

How business owners can meet large divorce settlement obligations without selling their company, losing control, or sacrificing legacy. A strategic alternative most attorneys never mention.

Episode 22March 24, 2026 · 24 min

How Financial Clarity Saved Their Settlements | The Psychology of Divorce Decisions, Pt. 3

Real client stories that show what changes when financial clarity replaces emotion and assumption — from uncovering over $1M in undervalued assets to challenging fantasy support numbers built on unrealistic income.

Episode 21March 10, 2026 · 58 min

Business Valuation in Divorce | What Business Owners Need to Know (and What Can Go Wrong) with Matt Springer

What makes a credible business valuation, how commingled personal and business expenses derail settlements, and why state laws on personal goodwill create vastly different outcomes. With valuation expert Matt Springer.

Episode 20February 24, 2026 · 23 min

Facing Demands That Don’t Make Sense | The Psychology of Divorce Decisions, Pt. 2

What it feels like to be the spouse carrying the financial weight of divorce while facing demands that feel impossible. How fear, guilt, and social pressure twist negotiations — and why even fair offers get rejected when pain is driving the process.

Episode 16December 16, 2025 · 53 min

When Facebook Advice Derails Your Divorce with Theresa Viera | A CDFA® and an Attorney React to Facebook Divorce Advice

Family law attorney Theresa Viera and Gabriella react to real questions and dangerously misleading answers from Facebook divorce groups. The legal and financial risks of taking advice from strangers online.

Episode 15December 2, 2025 · 32 min

The E.A.W. Divorce Financial Strategy Framework™ | Part 2: The Step-By-Step Process That Turns Chaos Into Clarity

The signature framework Gabriella uses to help clients shift from reactive choices to intentional strategy. The step-by-step process that protects financial stability when divorce upends everything.

Episode 13November 5, 2025 · 44 min

“I Wish I Had a CDFA®” | What One Woman Wishes She Knew Before Her Divorce with Colleen Odegaard

Emmy-winning journalist Colleen Odegaard shares the emotional fog that followed her husband’s sudden decision to leave, the costly choices that happen when you handle everything alone, and why she wishes she had a CDFA® from the start.

Episode 12October 30, 2025 · 52 min

Divorce Horror Stories | Hidden Retirement Accounts, a 5-Year Divorce Process, and More

Gabriella, Gerard Zielinski, and Rhonda Noordyk share the divorce horror stories they have seen happen to clients — and how they helped clients avoid the worst outcomes when expert guidance arrived in time.

Episode 11October 7, 2025 · 20 min

Emotional Traps in Divorce | Part 2: What Every Business Owner Needs to Know Before Divorce

The mistakes business owners make when emotion takes the wheel. Why an attorney is not a financial strategist, how disorganized books distort assumptions about income and company value, and why judges respond to numbers rather than attachment to the business you built.

Episode 9September 9, 2025 · 31 min

Your Divorce Deserves Better | Why Your Wealth Advisor Should NOT Be Your Divorce Strategist with Nicole Milone

The key differences between a wealth manager and a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® — and how trying to combine the two roles can derail your divorce, expose you to legal risk, and leave long-term money on the table.

Episode 8August 26, 2025 · 20 min

Strategy Is Not Optional: Why You Need a CDFA® on Your Divorce Team

Real client stories that show what can happen when you try to get through divorce without a CDFA® on your team. From wasted time and sky-high attorney bills to life-changing clarity and resolution.

Episode 7August 12, 2025 · 46 min

Real Self-Care During Divorce, Hormones & the Midlife Reset You Didn’t Ask For with Debbie Harbeck

Certified menopause coach Debbie Harbec on how to stay grounded when your body, your future, and your identity all feel in flux. Why high-achievers are most at risk for burnout during midlife divorce — and how to reclaim clarity without burning out.

Episode 6July 29, 2025 · 26 min

Alimony Unfiltered | My Hot Takes on Alimony for Both the Giver and the Recipient

Hot takes on one of the most emotionally charged parts of divorce. What I see most often with clients, how courts actually approach spousal support, and why clarity — not conflict — should lead the conversation.

Episode 3June 17, 2025 · 41 min

How My Client Avoided Splitting Her Business In Her Divorce | Client Case Study

A real client case study: how strategy, financial clarity, and the right team helped a business-owner client get everything she wanted in her divorce — including full ownership of the business that supported her family.

Episode 2June 17, 2025 · 14 min

What Do You Actually Want? | Separating Feelings From Finances During Your Divorce

The first question I ask every new client — and why it is so much harder to answer than it sounds. How to separate revenge from strategy, and how the answer changes everything about your settlement.

Episode 1June 3, 2025 · 13 min

What Is a CDFA®? | Why You Can’t Afford NOT to Hire a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst®

What a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® actually does, why you cannot afford to navigate divorce without one, and the red flags to watch for when choosing one to add to your divorce team.

The financial decisions you make during divorce will shape the rest of your life. This podcast prepares you to make them with clarity.

— Gabriella E. Martinelli, CDFA®, CDS®, NCMP®

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Divorce & Money features attorneys, financial experts, and professionals who understand what is truly at stake when families navigate divorce. If you work in this space and have something valuable to share — grounded in real experience and thoughtful perspective — I would like to hear from you.

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Who Fits the Show

The Kind of Guest We Feature

  • Practicing family law attorneys with depth in complex financial cases
  • Financial professionals — CDFAs, CPAs, valuators, forensic accountants
  • Mediators and collaborative divorce practitioners
  • Therapists and coaches who work with divorcing clients
  • Subject-matter experts on tax, business valuation, real estate, and behavioral finance